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E74_medic
11-04-2003, 02:26
There was an article recently posted on the internet by Douglas Gantenbein entitled "Smoke and Mirrors: Stop calling firefighters heros". I have enclosed a copy of his distorted opinions in this post, and I think everyone should take the time to read his article. (I wasn't originally planning on even mentioning this article to the FOOPS site, but I've decided that an article like this is important for all of us to discuss.)


Smoke and Mirrors
Stop calling firefighters "heroes."
By Douglas Gantenbein
Posted Friday, October 31, 2003, at 12:05 PM PT



A cush job, most of the time

When California Gov.-elect Arnold Schwarzenegger toured the state's catastrophic wildfires a few days ago, he uttered the phrase that now accompanies any blaze as surely as smoke: "The firefighters are the true heroes."

It's understandable why he said that. As fires go, the California blazes are scary. They are moving incredibly quickly through dried brush and chaparral that practically explode when they ignite, threatening the life of any firefighter nearby. Steven L. Rucker, a 38-year-old firefighter and paramedic for the town of Novato, was killed working to save houses. Elsewhere, thousands of firefighters have worked for hours on end in 95-degree heat, dressed in multiple layers of fire-resistant clothing, sometimes without enough food or water because of the long and shifting supply lines.

Given all that, it may seem churlish to suggest that firefighters might not deserve the lofty pedestal we so insistently place them on. We lionize them, regard them as unsullied by base motivations, see them as paragons of manliness (and very tough womanliness). They're easily our most-admired public servants, and in the public's eye probably outrank just about anyone except the most highly publicized war veterans. But the "hero" label is tossed around a little too often when the subject is firefighting. Here's why:

A cush job, most of the time

When California Gov.-elect Arnold Schwarzenegger toured the state's catastrophic wildfires a few days ago, he uttered the phrase that now accompanies any blaze as surely as smoke: "The firefighters are the true heroes."

It's understandable why he said that. As fires go, the California blazes are scary. They are moving incredibly quickly through dried brush and chaparral that practically explode when they ignite, threatening the life of any firefighter nearby. Steven L. Rucker, a 38-year-old firefighter and paramedic for the town of Novato, was killed working to save houses. Elsewhere, thousands of firefighters have worked for hours on end in 95-degree heat, dressed in multiple layers of fire-resistant clothing, sometimes without enough food or water because of the long and shifting supply lines.

Given all that, it may seem churlish to suggest that firefighters might not deserve the lofty pedestal we so insistently place them on. We lionize them, regard them as unsullied by base motivations, see them as paragons of manliness (and very tough womanliness). They're easily our most-admired public servants, and in the public's eye probably outrank just about anyone except the most highly publicized war veterans. But the "hero" label is tossed around a little too often when the subject is firefighting. Here's why:

Firefighting is a cushy job. Firefighters may have the best work schedule in the United States—24 hours on, 48 hours off. And those 24 hours are usually not terribly onerous. While a few big-city fire stations may have four, five, six calls, or more during a shift, most aren't nearly that busy, giving firefighters time to give tours to school kids, barbecue hamburgers, wash fire engines, sleep, and pose for "The Firefighters of [Your City Here], 2004" calendars. Indeed, fire officials devote much of their time to figuring out how to cover up the fact they're not getting the hoses out very often. So we have firefighters doing ambulance work, firefighters doing search-and-rescue work, anything but Job No. 1. Meanwhile, the long days off give many firefighters a chance to start second careers. That makes it easy for them to retire after 20 years, take a pension, and start another profession. I've known firefighters who moonlighted as builders, photographers, and attorneys.

Firefighting isn't that dangerous. Of course there are hazards, and about 100 firefighters die each year. But firefighting doesn't make the Department of Labor's 2002 list of the 10 most dangerous jobs in America. Loggers top that one, followed by commercial fishermen in the No. 2 spot, and general-aviation commercial pilots (crop dusters and the like) at No. 3. Firefighting trails truck-driving (No. 10) in its risks. Pizza delivery drivers (No. 5) have more dangerous jobs than firefighters, statistically speaking. And fatalities, when they occur in firefighting, often are due to heart attacks and other lack-of-fitness problems, not fire. In those cases where firefighters die in a blaze, it's almost always because of some unbelievable screw-up in the command chain. It's been well-documented, for instance, that lousy communication was a huge reason why so many firefighters still were in the burning World Trade Center when it imploded, and well after city police and port authority police had been warned by their own commanders of an imminent collapse and cleared out.

Firefighters are adrenalin junkies. I did mountain rescue work for several years and more than once was praised as a "hero." Oh, give me a break. It was fun and exciting. Firefighting is even more of a rush. Sharon Waxman, in an excellent article in the Washington Post, interviewed firefighters in California. Every one was in a complete lather to get to the next hot spot. "It's almost a slugfest to get in there," one told Waxman. This urge to reach the fire is not entirely altruistic. It sure beats washing that damned fire truck again, for one thing. Plus a big fire is thrilling, plain and simple.

Firefighters have excellent propaganda skills. Firefighters play the hero card to its limit. Any time a big-city firefighter is killed on duty, that city will all but shut down a few days later while thousands of firefighters line the streets for a procession. In July 2001, I witnessed the tasteless spectacle of Washington state firefighters staging a massive public display to "honor" four young people killed in a forest fire (one absurd touch: hook-and-ladder rigs extended to form a huge arch over the entrance to the funeral hall). For the families of the four dead firefighters—three of whom were teens trying to make a few bucks for college—the parade, the solemn speeches, and the quasi-military trappings all were agony. "It's just the firefighters doing their thing," one bystander said to me later with a shrug.

Firefighters are just another interest group. Firefighters use their heroic trappings to play special interest politics brilliantly. It is a heavily unionized occupation. Nothing's wrong with that, but let's not assume they're always acting in anything but their own best interests. In Seattle not long ago a squabble broke out between police and firefighters when both were called to the scene of a capsized dinghy in a lake. The firefighters put a diver in the water, a police officer on the scene ordered him out to make way for a police team, and all hell broke loose (yes, the cops were at fault, too). The dispute wasn't over public safety, it was over who got the glory. New York firefighters, admittedly deep in grief over lost co-workers, exacerbated the challenge of body recovery operations after 9/11 by insisting on elaborate removal procedures for each firefighter uncovered, an insult to others who died there. Not long before that, in Boston, a special commission released a scathing report that detailed a 1,600-member fire department up to its bunker gear in racism, sexism, and homophobia. Since then the department has bitterly resisted reform efforts.

None of this is meant to dispute that firefighters aren't valuable to the communities in which they work. They are. But our society is packed with unheralded heroes—small-town physicians, teachers in poverty-stricken neighborhoods, people who work in dirty, dangerous jobs like coal-mining to support a family. A firefighter plunging into a burning house to retrieve a frightened, smoke-blinded child is a hero. But let's save the encomiums for when they are truly deserved, not when they just show up to do their job.

E74_medic
11-04-2003, 02:43
My biggest issue with his article is that it is extremely damaging to firefighters and EMS workers. Yes... EMS workers!!! In most systems, we respond together, so the public tends to associate us as being together. Whether you are career, part-time or volley... municiple, rural or private, this article can potentially change the most important tool we have... PUBLIC TRUST.

I could go on all day about public trust, but I'd like to know what you all think.

P.S. If anybody has to ask why public trust is so important, go ask a cop.

E74_medic
11-04-2003, 02:53
Oh yeah... the hero thing. I don't know anybody that does this job because they want to be a hero. Most firefighters and EMS workers don't even like public recognition. We do this job to help people- especially when they are at their worst. We do this job for ourselves. We do this job because the average person couldn't.

Firegirl444
11-04-2003, 03:32
I think that this article has left me so insulted and sick to my stomach that i can't even form an intelligent opinion right now. Who writes this kind of ignorance? I come from a family of firefighters dating back over a hundred years, and I've yet to know one person who becomes a firefighter or goes into EMS to be a HERO. I sure know hero is the last thing on MY mind when that bell hits. Ugh. :x :evil:

Medic162
11-04-2003, 06:47
Any time a big-city firefighter is killed on duty, that city will all but shut down a few days later while thousands of firefighters line the streets for a procession.

Out of the entire article, this is the part that hurt the most. In case anyone can't figure this out... It's called respect. Obviously the author of this article is unfamiliar with this term as is a large section of our society. Too bad. Years ago when "respect" was more prevelant, it was a nicer world to live in...

Medic162
11-04-2003, 06:59
I wish I'd be the firefighter with the "cushy" job of pushing through this authors flame filled smoke choked home on a rescue team. Just to see the fear in his nearly dead eyes as I drag his pitiful *** out. Ya have to wonder how this would effect his opinion. Not a very bright guy. Yes, we're all entitled to our opinions... But!!! Some people simply shouldn't share.

Rob1036
11-04-2003, 11:59
This thread is going to get exciting. He has a few (very few) good points but the rest of the article is worthless and should be burned. As for damaging EMS workers...Doubtful. When EMT's save a life, we are regarded as a hero to the family. Same goes for the FF's who save a house from burning to the ground. This Douglas Gantenbein guy really needs to reassess his career choice. I believe if your going to write or talk about a career, then do the job first to get the perspective.


This thread is just going to piss a lot of people off in my opinion.

OARMedic
11-04-2003, 16:39
Firefighting and EMS are like the military. People bitch, moan, complain and just don't give a **** about us......until they need us.

MintShakes
11-04-2003, 17:29
But let's save the encomiums for when they are truly deserved, not when they just show up to do their job.[/color]

Now here's something this author seems to forget. For many of these people it is NOT a job, they have full time jobs as well as firefighting. He also seems to forget that many times firefighters do not get to work 24 on 48 off. When the big ones hit, they call in off duty firefighters. The people working the CA fires are running on days and days straight. This author seems to know very little about firefighters. He seems to feel that just because people call them heros that is what they want. How often have you ever seen a firefighter step up and say 'yes I am a hero'? I for one have never seen it, and due to the poor salary most of these men and women recieve, I can't see how the title hero can be ALL that bad

Firegirl444
11-04-2003, 21:08
Good point, MintShakes. And the author clearly has no clue what it's like to be a volunteer who spends 60 hours a week at gainful employment and then over half their spare time doing the firefighter's "cushy" job for free. Just because they love to do it. Ugh, this guy really makes me ill. :evil:

emmit233
11-04-2003, 22:24
As mentioned before, this author obviously does not have any research skills. Here in Southern Indiana the closest paid FD is over 60 miles away. I am so very grateful to these guys and gals that get up at 0300 for $0 and help me to help a stranger and yes sometimes they put their lives at risk to do this.

A friend once told me that most of todays hero's never make the front page and she meant us EMS and Fire as well as the everyday folks. It's the little things we do that make us all hero's. i.e. comfort a frightened child, holding Granny Grunt's hand because she is terribly sick and afraid of the ambulance ride, etc. Am I calling myself a hero? NO but in the eyes of some people we ALL are. Yes, there are those who do not know that we even exsist till they need us.

It sounds to me like this author has had a bad experience in some form with a FD. What's the term? Is it anger displacement? Anywhoo whatever the reason for the article just remember you can't argue with an idiot because he will only drag you down and beat you with experience. :roll:

CBFlatline
11-07-2003, 04:19
Although I don't agree with Mr. Gantenbein's theory about firefighters and that they have an easy job. I do agree that they play the "hero" card to the hilt (at least their unions do). For those of you that say that you do not like the public attention of being called a hero you were obviously not in EMS just after 9-11 or you missed everything. (see my signature) I personnally love it when a former patient comes to see me or when I am on the news. I get a kick out of it and I see it as a way to educate the public on what I do.

I can't stand it when I'm referred to as an Ambulance Driver, Band Aid Pusher or when the fire/ police department gets the credit for something I or one of my colleagues did.

I really can't stand it when 8 EMT's and Paramedics are killed when a very large building fell on them while they were doing their job in New York City. Then they were ignored by the media and government and our own trade magazines can't even get the numbers straight.

I am not a firefighter
I am not a police officer
I am a paramedic and I am damn proud of that fact.

Finally, look at what is happening to the City of Pittsburgh Paramedics (One of the first in the nation and runs as a third service provider) (I am not a member) A few years ago the Pittsburgh Bureau of Fire will not give them the time of day and now wants to take them over in order to save firefighter jobs. All of the cities EMT's were fired for buget cuts (who were originally hired due to the paramedics being overwhelmed by calls just 2 years ago). A whole zone of the police department was closed for the same reason and how many layoffs did the PBF get? Absolutely zero!!!

According to the City of Pittsburgh website these are the last recorderd stats for the public safety department.
PBF= 414 structure fires
EMS calls= 70,000

By the way, the paramedics do the rescue (vehicle, dive team, high angle), not the fire department.

What's that saying...
Paramedics save lives,
EMT's save paramedics,
and EMS will save the Fire Department.

Sorry, one other thing. Mr. Gantenbein reffered to the firefighters as "adrenaline junkies." Well there is nothing that I like better than that rush of adrenaline during or after a good call. At least we can agree on some things.

Chaplain
11-18-2003, 14:27
:lol: I have to agree with E74_MEDIC, about we do this job because no one else can handle it. Like the rest of us you all probably get people coming up to you all the time and saying,"I don't know how you do it, I couldn't do it", and I say yes sir or yes mam, it does take a special kind of person to do what we all do.


I think we should all give ourselves a big pat on the back!!!!! :lol:

When I read this article on Firehouse.com I knew It would start a big conversation.


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